Outsight Interactive - Comments

Do you think this is what

ffxi gil — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:20:11 -0400

Do you think this is what Sun Tzu was talking about, a board game?

As a Westerner I can say I've never heard of the game either, but I'm keen to find an online version so I can start learning. Thanks for the heads up!

Great observations, Jon.

Denise — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:32:55 -0400

Great observations, Jon.

Luke W shows those kinds of treatment options for primary and secondary actions at the bottom of the following: Web Application Form Design

One thing I'd be aware of is

Jon Reil — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:59:35 -0400

One thing I'd be aware of is how the order of these buttons translates to users that have to tab through your interface. One would think that you would want the action item to be the first item chosen as it would more than likely be their preferred choice.

One other question that comes to mind is: Should these both be portrayed visually as buttons? Or should the primary action be a button and the secondary action be a link... so [OK] and then cancel ?

Just a couple more interesting things to think about in these somewhat never-ending debates.

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That's filthy cool guys! No

Aaron Johnson — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:29:00 -0500

That's filthy cool guys! No screenshots though? Show it off!

I wonder how well this would

Mike Bosch — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:45:16 -0500

I wonder how well this would scale? I would imagine it is better to first create a table variable in the local procedure and then use that table in the actual WHERE clause? Otherwise, wouldn't the function have to be evaluated (and re-split) for each row in the table?

Congrats on the victory

corey byrnes — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:08:44 -0500

Congrats on the victory guys! Well-deserved. Hope all is well with you all.

Wow! You and the 4 guys

Siddus Vious — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:52:02 -0500

Wow! You and the 4 guys should get some sort of an award for this! This has made life so much more stress free!

Thanks SO MUCH for this. I

Cris — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:54:49 -0400

Thanks SO MUCH for this. I never would have come up with this most eloquent solution. And shame on SQL Server for requiring it. Love to 4 Guys From Rolla.

@Anonymous: I agree with the

Justin Bozonier — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:35:18 -0400

@Anonymous:

I agree with the author over you. The *what* can be defined by doing this:
d = DistanceBetweenPoints(point1, point2);
where point1/2 are point objects
or even
d = DistanceBetweenPoints(x1, y1, x2, y2);
and then define your method to implement this.
Instead of:
// calculate distance of the two points in 2D
d = sqrt((p2.x - p1.x) * (p2.x - p1.x) + (p2.y - p1.y) * (p2.y - p1.y))

Now the *what* is the method name and the why is the comment (though even that could be a method name as well).

Thanks for linking this up.

Jared — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:29:58 -0400

Thanks for linking this up. The Split() technique is easy to implement without adding a whole lot of extra code.

I couldn't agree more about

Denise — Tue, 15 May 2007 11:03:40 -0400

I couldn't agree more about wanting this to be more standardized. I went back to Nielsen to find what he had to say on the subject. In "Designing Web Usability," he states:

The important point is to make the home page into a landmark that is accessible in one click from any interior pages on the site, no matter how people entered. On all interior pages, the logo should be clickable and linked to the home page. Unfortunately, not all users understand the use of the logo as a link to the home page, and it will take a while until this convention is fully established. So for the next few years, it will also be necessary to have an explicit link named "home" on every page.

That goes right to the experience you describe -- wanting to drop the explicit link, but adding it in the end.

Now, it is probably important to note that that was written in 1999 - 8 years ago. It might be interesting to look at the same 50 homepages that Nielsen examined in "Homepage Usability: 50 Websites Deconstructed" (2002) and see how many of those sites kept, dropped or added an explicit "Home" link.

In my initial searches, I haven't found anything written after 2002 about this particular convention. I would love to see/hear about any usability testing that talks about this point to see if there is evidence that this convention has become more established.

I, too, wondered about a tool tip. It would be interesting to test that out.

Good to hear from you.

For the sake of keeping an

Scott — Mon, 14 May 2007 16:32:48 -0400

For the sake of keeping an interface clean, I've always wished this was more standardized than it seems to be.

It seems that most of the sites that I've worked on have planned for this convention in the early iterations of design comps. However, either by client request or some other reason, it becomes the secondary means of finding the homepage by the time the site goes live.

Do you think adding a "home" tooltip/title to the logo would reinforce the idea enough to stand alone or is the problem in finding the link in the first place?

a bad start for the article.

Marc3 — Wed, 02 May 2007 17:20:29 -0400

a bad start for the article. go is not a game of territory, it is a game of fight, blood and flesh. it may happen that territory will be counted if no player has been exterminated. however, i enjoyed the proverb about the fist. really nice. and true :)

Thanks for reading and

Brandon — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:21:33 -0400

Thanks for reading and commenting, Anonymous.

While I agree that comments should speed up understanding for the next reader, I disagree that they should do that by conveying the intent of the code. I maintain that the code should convey the intent of the code.
At this point comments conveying the intent of the code become redundant and useless. To use your example:


// calculate distance of the two points in 2D
d = distance(p1, p2);

Obviously you don't need comments for "according to item 3 on page 4 of the version 10 of the spec ..." and anything changed "because of change request y" will be commited to source control with a comment that says "Completed Change Request Y" but how which of these two things would you rather see?

// customers that still have credit get foo'd
 if (customer.getBalance() < = bag.getTotal()) {foo(customer)}

// customers with credit need to get foo'd before bar happens so baz updates properly
 if (customer.getBalance() < = bag.getTotal()) {foo(customer)}

Now when I come back three months from now and try to refactor and foo customers with credit in a different method, I know to make sure that baz updates properly.